Talk:Speech scroll

A fact from Speech scroll appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 November 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the use of speech scrolls (example pictured) developed independently in European and Mesoamerican art?

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Western?

How is it western if it was developed independently in native Americas before any European influence ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitalsurgeon (talk • contribs) 11:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship to word balloons?

The parallel between these speech scrolls and the Speech balloons found in modern comics seems quite striking, but isn't mentioned here. Does anyone know if the modern word balloon is a direct descendent of the speech scroll tradition in Western art? Or is it just a similar solution to the same problem, arising independently as it did in both Mesoamerica and Europe? --Jfruh (talk) 12:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. I would guess the latter (similar solution), but you could certainly do some research. Madman (talk) 12:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly continuous, I would imagine. The 18th century was actually the golden age of the speech balloon, with far longer ones than now (see Gilray etc), and they go back earlier than that. Banderoles weren't always used, sometimes the words were just painted on the background, as was usual in Byzantine art - see Annunciation (van Eyck, Washington)

. Johnbod (talk) 13:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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language Akdtox (talk) 11:02, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In Eastern Orthodox icons?

Today, such scrolls are often seen in Eastern Orthodox Christian icons. At what time did they make their debut in this kind of art? -- 2003:C0:9743:8D00:D2DA:B08:8885:3BC9 (talk) 12:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are they? Perhaps mainly in icons from areas bordering Catholic areas. Historically, EO art just used tituli written on the background, taken over from Late Antique art, which many/most still do. I'd guess scrolls developed around the 17th or 18th centuries, but that's just a guess. Johnbod (talk) 13:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]